11 comments

  • mosesman 38 minutes ago
    There was a cyberattack in France with 350-400 supermarkets having its fridges heated to 50C, instantly defrosting and spoiling food.

    When your fridges hit 50C, that’s not a bug... thats a hotfix

    • silver92bullet 11 minutes ago
      Are we aware if these attacks are actually connected?
      • fodkodrasz 0 minutes ago
        “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”
    • fwip 20 minutes ago
      They didn't actually hit 50C, right? I read it as setting the thermostat to 50C, which basically would just turn off the cooling compressor entirely - not heat the fridge.
      • whynotmaybe 14 minutes ago
        I read somewhere else that they activated a quick defrost function and as those were industrial fridge, it seems they can heat to 50C
        • TeMPOraL 2 minutes ago
          Wouldn't surprise me if they could go all the way to 200C as part of self-cleaning/self-sterilizing cycle.
    • olelele 37 minutes ago
      badum-tsch
  • paaloeye 1 hour ago
  • atleastoptimal 1 hour ago
    AI will exponentially increase the number of cyberattacks. The likely outcome is

    1. Legacy firmware will be a bloodbath, leading to a consolidation of firms

    2. All digital infrastructure will have an always on AI "shield" of agents that monitor and defend against attacks

    3. The attacks that survive will depend on human points of failure, leading to less control for humans being the default

    • 233mhz 28 minutes ago
      Why do we always talk about ai capabilities in the future tense?

      What's stopping them from doing these right now? Script kiddies have basically reverse engineered the PS5 at that point, do you think state actors need better models?

    • bakies 16 minutes ago
      very doubtful it will be exponential, considering that blue teams can use it too, and backend engineers are using it for security too.
    • swingandamiss 30 minutes ago
      Just updated my openwrt firmware yesterday. I was a minor point release behind but I'm no longer risking it.
      • sippingabonedry 16 minutes ago
        What if they poisoned the repository and pulled a Jia Tan where only new versions were affected?

        Now you don't know what the hell to do.

        • odiroot 1 minute ago
          Put a decoy Fritzbox in front of it. Defense in depth!
        • swingandamiss 4 minutes ago
          it's def a risk, but the latest point release was out for a bit
    • squidmaster 46 minutes ago
      [dead]
  • artrockalter 25 minutes ago
    The internet became a single point of failure for all of civilization years ago and we're only realizing it now.
    • sdcfgy 3 minutes ago
      Based on Bahrain’s AWS region I would expect the first decapitation strike on a country, after defensive systems, would be cloud data centres. Everything we have from hospitals to logistics to power to SCADA to retail seems to be heavily centralised.

      We need more distribution for the sake of redundancy. Less large data centres and hyper scalers, more servers in a back office somewhere.

      The internet itself is less of a problem. It’s where most of the traffic goes that is the problem.

    • ecocentrik 10 minutes ago
      There was plenty of network hacking going on pre-internet and people still figure out ways to hack air gaped computers. Security is always going to be a problem.
    • quantified 13 minutes ago
      Also, Russia has clearly established itself as a source of failures. In the same way that Europe and Canada should be weaning themselves from the USA for lighter-duty yet valid issues, they should really further disentangle themselves from the Russian economy if possible.
    • nradov 12 minutes ago
      Luckily the Internet itself has never failed. The worst that has happened is some large regional outages due to BGP problems.
    • embedding-shape 23 minutes ago
      > we're only realizing it now

      Hence we need alternatives. P2P wireless (and wired) networks Freifunk, Guifi and NYCMesh are three that works today, in practice and in the real world. Contribute to them, learn from them, replicate them elsewhere, where you live.

  • thinker34 39 minutes ago
    The Russia-Ukraine war has all signs to lead the world into world war 3 if its not stopped. All these sabotage acts will continue across the globe to drag more countries into the mix. What is the UN Security council doing?. Nobody hears their efforts to stop anything
    • allemagne 26 minutes ago
      >The Russia-Ukraine war has all signs to lead the world into world war 3 if its not stopped.

      Russia can withdraw today and all the fighting would stop immediately.

      >All these sabotage acts will continue across the globe to drag more countries into the mix.

      Russia can choose to stop these sabotage acts immediately.

      >What is the UN Security council doing?. Nobody hears their efforts to stop anything

      Russia doesn't need anyone's permission to stop the war immediately.

      (But also, Russia is a founder and permanent member of the UNSC, so...)

      • alt227 10 minutes ago
        The US has invaded 3 countries this year so far. Seems many countries could choose to stop doing things if they wanted to.
      • lenerdenator 21 minutes ago
        The problem being, of course, that if they stop any of what they're doing, in their own heads, they're no longer Russia.

        And to them, that's a bad thing.

    • smw 16 minutes ago
      Russia has a permanent seat and an absolute veto on all UN Security Council actions.
    • skybrian 22 minutes ago
      Or maybe it’s the Iranians this time? Whoever it is, getting good at cybersecurity seems more useful than going to war over it.
    • 233mhz 31 minutes ago
      Let me guess, we have to war now to... prevent... a war?
      • Zanfa 29 minutes ago
        US wouldn't need to join the war for Ukraine to prevail. Not trying to force them to unconditionally surrender would be a good start.
    • croes 6 minutes ago
      What can the UN do if countries like Russia, China and the USA can simply ignore them?
    • fasterik 28 minutes ago
      Russia lashing out beyond Ukraine is a sign of desperation, not of strength. They've destroyed their economy and have little chance of making more progress in Ukraine, and they know it. The predictions of escalation into WW3 don't seem credible to me.
    • embedding-shape 35 minutes ago
      > What is the UN Security council doing?

      What do you expect UN Security Council to do here, really? Two of the permanent members are waging offensive wars without cause, and Russia keeps vetoing anything about Ukraine, and the US keeps vetoing anything about Gaza/Israel and Iran. What exactly could they realistically do, in your opinion?

    • doubtitis 32 minutes ago
      I really have no factual basis to claim this, but based on the power balances, I would say that most of "russian", "chinese", "iranian" etc cyber attacks originate (at least the command is being given), from some geographical point in North America. Langley? Pentagon? Who knows.. but false flags are your specialty..
      • kubb 7 minutes ago
        Bots are coming back online.
      • coffinbirth 6 minutes ago
        Yes, who destroyed the Nord Stream pipelines? Biden and Nuland told us. Who developed Stuxnet? Same entities who are behind these false flags.
  • dw_arthur 27 minutes ago
    This reminds me I need to get to work storing a weeks worth of water in my basement and stashing a little bit of cash in the house.
    • kevdoran 26 minutes ago
      time to download wikipedia again
      • exe34 18 minutes ago
        Do you have solar panels? Otherwise it won't do you much good?
  • ErroneousBosh 34 minutes ago
    This is going to be another "OMG AI is going to cause all these cyberattacks!11!!1!" thing that turns out to be "any child can find these on Shodan and the hardcoded can't-be-disabled Gott-tier login is admin/admin, isn't it?

    It is, isn't it?

    Again.

    • edoceo 3 minutes ago
      Password is "123456", same as my luggage.
  • 1287-asf 1 hour ago
    It is like reading The Onion:

    [x] Outsourcing identification to Internet companies (likely US).

    [x] Outsourcing operational state of equipment to Internet companies (likely US).

    [x] Displacing German and Danish workers with cheaper Poles.

    [x] Cyber council member floats hybrid war rather than addressing its own incompetence.

    [x] News comes from Kiev instead of Copenhagen.

    • undebuggable 1 hour ago
      > [x] Displacing German and Danish workers with cheaper Poles.

      I beg you pardon. I'm not cheap, but I'm also not employed. You want cheap so you get it.

      • schaum 1 hour ago
        Polska Gurom
    • paaloeye 1 hour ago
      Last one is uncalled for. Here is your CPH source if you can Danish: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50074900
    • BlackRabbit1 48 minutes ago
      [x] BSI certified security

      (Joking)

      • tete 17 minutes ago
        Fun fact, BSI has that sending out security emails when they find a security hole. A client once got that and was on the edge. It was a bit odd, cause the article they linked to literally said this wasn't affected (so no patches existed). Really wished they didn't do that. It was OpenSSH on OpenBSD.

        There were other laughable things like that.

        But in a world dominated by FUD (that HTTPS connection that only allows one fingerprint needs to go over VPN, that SSH port cannot allowed to be reachable (but that gaping hole on HTTP(S) is fine), without a firewall that server is insecure, ...) that's not exactly surprising.

    • patcon 49 minutes ago
      I do trust critique on this stuff from throwaways. The utter cheapness of manufacturing provocateurs against EU interests, mean you need to bring your reputation to be taken seriously with the potshots imho
      • 12sajh 12 minutes ago
        Yes, listen to established NAFO accounts!
    • artisinal 56 minutes ago
      I wonder if the Eastern European workers on the German part of the tunnel are paid below minimum wage or if that is only allowed for agriculture.
    • neoromantique 24 minutes ago
      >created: 1 hour ago

      >Kiev

      ок

      • 12sajh 13 minutes ago
        Surprising how many of the 1000,000 males coming from rich Ukrainian families and vacationing permanently in Germany or France have time to correct European Union citizens.

        The spelling changed in 2022 and is hard to remember for those who don't make a living harassing EU citizens while blackmailing them for more money. You know what? Russia and Ukraine are really made for each other.

        • kubb 4 minutes ago
          Give it up, you’ll never be a great nation, your culture is incapable of it.
  • paaloeye 1 hour ago
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    • avidruntime 1 hour ago
      > President of the Danish Council for Digital Security, Henning Mortensen, does not rule out that the incident may have to do with a hybrid war. In recent weeks, Danish services have warned of possible cyber attacks from Russia and raised the degree of threat to "high."

      https://www.rmf24.pl/fakty/swiat/news-wojna-hybrydowa-cybera...

      • zero-g 1 hour ago
        What could be the Russia’s interest in this type of short disruption? What do they gain from this?
        • Sharlin 1 hour ago
          Fear, uncertainty and doubt. Russia’s modus operandi. They want to make us paranoid and suspect them every time something suspicious happens, painting a picture of some kind of super powerful actor, while always retaining plausible deniability about everything.
          • red75prime 56 minutes ago
            As in "promote linking every attack of uncertain origin to Russia thus creating the fear of widespread hybrid warfare, while focusing actual attacks on Ukraine's weapon suppliers if possible"?
        • lukan 1 hour ago
          Scaring the european public, to be less willing to support Ukraine.

          With quite some this is working.

        • karp773 55 minutes ago
          They want the electorate to be scared and vote in incompetent, corrupt, compromised, anti-EU, and divisive government. And then divide et impera.
        • schainks 1 hour ago
          It fuels the “look how the government sucks at doing its job, vote for us to “fix” the government” narrative for whoever they are propping up with money and bot farms.

          Any disruption is an opportunity to inject corruption.

        • paaloeye 1 hour ago
          They just do what they can. Any nuisance is a win for them.
  • 2PqboPPmKegvanx 1 hour ago
    well, shit.